new to amiga, where to start
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<QUOTE author="JacquesT" post_id="2494" time="1534446825" user_id="104">
JacquesT post_id=2494 time=1534446825 user_id=104 Wrote:If you can find a copy, Mahoney and Kaktus released a super two disk music complilation, the scroll text comments were a bit weird but funny! Amiga scene had some of the best musicians going in the 80's and 90's. Jesper Kyd was one of my favourites, and look what he's been doing recently :)

would this be something recent or would it be an actual demo from the days of the Amiga scene? I googled them and I saw older things - not sure what I'm looking for

i.e these two links
<URL url="http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/author.php?id=5882">http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/author.php?id=5882
<URL url="http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=13360">http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=13360
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08-20-2018, 03:07 PM
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My best 'little' computer was my last A1200 , started stock, then with a 80Mb HDD, later with MBX1230XA 33Mhz + 40 Mhz FPU & 8Mb Fast ram, it ended with a Blizzard 1260 oc at 75Mhe 32Mb Fast, SCSI with CDROM and VGA 17inch display.

I Also had an A4000 with Blizzard 68040 & picasso II.... but less fun than the 060 1200 !!!!

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08-20-2018, 06:14 PM
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gijoe77 post_id=2683 time=1534777673 user_id=243 Wrote:<QUOTE author="JacquesT" post_id="2494" time="1534446825" user_id="104">
JacquesT post_id=2494 time=1534446825 user_id=104 Wrote:If you can find a copy, Mahoney and Kaktus released a super two disk music complilation, the scroll text comments were a bit weird but funny! Amiga scene had some of the best musicians going in the 80's and 90's. Jesper Kyd was one of my favourites, and look what he's been doing recently :)

would this be something recent or would it be an actual demo from the days of the Amiga scene? I googled them and I saw older things - not sure what I'm looking for

i.e these two links
<URL url="http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/author.php?id=5882">http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/author.php?id=5882
<URL url="http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=13360">http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=13360

Yep, it's called His Master's Noise :)

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08-21-2018, 07:05 AM
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Re: new to amiga, where to start
ok thanks, I just downloaded it and will be checking it out
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08-21-2018, 10:39 AM
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RE: new to amiga, where to start
Hi Jo

Most of the demos out there targeted one of four basic configurations. I call it epoch's.

First:
Amiga 500.
512kb ChipRAM, 512kb FastRAM (pseudo-FAST).
Workbench 1.3.
1x Floppy drive.
OCS graphics.

Amiga 500.
1mb ChipRAM, 0kb FastRAM.
Workbench 1.3 (actual or Relokick)
2x Floppy Drive
OCS Graphics (or ECS retarded by early startup).

Amiga1200:
Stock 14Mhz PAL timings.

Amiga1200/030:
An 030 and 4mb or more ram.

The reason for each is that some demos and games could really benefit from the extra hardware, and still not have compatibility issues. Some would work on the slower system, but the experience was poor.

For example the A1200 demo "Tint" by The Black Lotus. Try it on a A1200 with 2mb FastRAM and it'll run. Sound amazing, but to make it run a lot nicer, a modest 030 is really recommended.

SuperFrog is a fun game that will detect often the additional RAM and floppy drives if you have them and load more of the game into FastRAM to avoid loading later.

Some demos have serious issues with epoch hardware. An example is Razor 1911's "Voyage" demo. Until the several 'fixed' versions came out, it would run on a Rev5 board with 512/512kb RAM, but not correctly on a 2.x ROM A500 with OCS and 1mb ChipRAM (irrespective of Relokick).

Amiga's had the down-side of people developing for common hardware configurations.

Now days with Vampires, ACA accellerators .. this is a wonderous time to be around and enjoying these wonderful little systems. Smile

Some demo's to check out:

Pretty much anything by The Black Lotus, Budbrain, Spaceballs 'State of the art' and 9-Fingers of course, Most stuff by Sanity (Start with Elysium, World Of Commodore 92, Arte, Hospital since last friday), Vision, Razor ..go for a megademo. We'll be here all day.
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05-22-2019, 06:57 AM
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My disk collection was 90% demos and 9% games and 1% apps! Smile

I loved swapping demos with the traders in Europe while living in South Africa. I'd worked out the optimal number of disks per postage bracket to fit in my pocket money bracket. Fun times.

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05-25-2019, 08:34 AM
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When you go over MC68030 lot of games and demos won't run.
Typical basic configuration is A500 512kb Chip and 512kb Fast with kickstart 1.3 or 1.2 and PAL
Since the demos were made mostly in Europe PAL is mandatory for them
NTSC has a slightly faster clock than PAL which makes European production faster = harder to play and music will play noticeably faster.

Modern productions require even the PowerPC accelerators

Look at Revision 2019 Amiga demo compo...
2019 is one of the best...

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