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Re: Latest purchase?

Post by uunix » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:54 pm

OK so, one empty board, and three fully populated.
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and
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What is going to be my best option?

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Re: Latest purchase?

Post by uunix » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:55 pm

And boards 3 & 4
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Re: Latest purchase?

Post by Irinikus » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:57 pm

My modules are populated as such: (There'n not much there!)

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I would suggest spreading the memory in such a way between all of the modules. (fill the memory from this side.)

EDIT:

I see that your memory appears to be made up of mixed sizes! (Maybe try to match it between all of the CPU's as a start, not that it necessarily matters, but just to make sure.)
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Re: Latest purchase?

Post by uunix » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:40 pm

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IP27 PROM SGI Version 6.156  built 11:27:56 AM Nov 18, 2003
Testing/Initializing memory ...............             DONE
Copying PROM code to memory ...............             DONE


IP27 PROM SGI Version 6.156  built 11:27:56 AM Nov 18, 2003
Testing/Initializing memory ...............             DONE
Copying PROM code to memory ...............             DONE
Discovering local IO ......................             Reading link 9 (addr 0x9200000009000004) failed
DONE
Discovering NUMAlink connectivity .........             DONE
Found 6 objects (4 hubs, 2 routers) in 82456 usec
Waiting for peers to complete discovery....             DONE
Recognized 390 MHz midplane
Global master is /hw/module/1/slot/n3
*** Barrier sync warning: local=4418, NIC 0x30c671=4400 (promrev mismatch?)                                                                                 *                                                                                ** Barrier sync warning: local=4446, NIC 0x30c671=4428 (promrev mismatch?)                                                                                  *                                                                                ** Barrier sync warning: local=4908, NIC 0x30c671=4890 (promrev mismatch?)                                                                                  *                                                                                ** Barrier sync warning: local=4981, NIC 0x30c671=4963 (promrev mismatch?)                                                                                  
Testing/Initializing all memory ......
Seems stuck here with front panel code P 3F3F3F

How long do these things take to book?
Can I run on a single CPU node?
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Re: Latest purchase?

Post by Irinikus » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:44 pm

They take really long to boot, I think that my machine shows the same code while booting and then shows the code that I posted earlier once it's ready to start loading the operating system.

Do you have any idea as to how much RAM is installed?

Start the machine, go and watch a movie to pass the time and then come back!
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Re: Latest purchase?

Post by uunix » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:45 pm

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Option? 5
Command Monitor.  Type "exit" to return to the menu.
>> hinv
System  SGI-IP27
6 300 MHz IP27 Processors (2 disabled)
2 250 MHz IP27 Processors
Main memory size: 5632 Mbytes, (4608 Mbytes disabled)
Integral SCSI controller 0
Integral SCSI controller 1
Integral Fast Ethernet
IOC3 serial port
Integral Fast Ethernet
IOC3 serial port
Graphics Controller
    Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI Controller 0, (dksc(0,1,0))
    Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI Controller 0, (dksc(0,2,0))
>>
I'm in...

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ORAC 1# hinv
Processor 0: 300 MHZ IP27
CPU: MIPS R12000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.3
FPU: MIPS R12010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.3
Processor 1: 300 MHZ IP27
CPU: MIPS R12000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.3
FPU: MIPS R12010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.3
Processor 2: 250 MHZ IP27
CPU: MIPS R10000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.4
FPU: MIPS R10010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 3.4
Processor 3: 250 MHZ IP27
CPU: MIPS R10000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.4
FPU: MIPS R10010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 3.4
Processor 4: 300 MHZ IP27
CPU: MIPS R12000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.3
FPU: MIPS R12010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.3
Processor 5: 300 MHZ IP27
CPU: MIPS R12000 Processor Chip Revision: 2.3
FPU: MIPS R12010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 2.3
Main memory size: 5632 Mbytes
Instruction cache size: 32 Kbytes
Data cache size: 32 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 8 Mbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 8 Mbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 4 Mbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 4 Mbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 8 Mbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 8 Mbytes
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version QL1040B, single ended
  Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
  Disk drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version QL1040B, single ended
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty1
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty2
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty3
IOC3/IOC4 serial port: tty4
IOC3 parallel port: plp1
Graphics board: SI with texture option
Integral Fast Ethernet: ef0, version 1, module 1, slot io1, pci 2
Iris Audio Processor: version RAD revision 7.0, number 1
Origin BASEIO board, module 1 slot 1: Revision 3
IOC3/IOC4 external interrupts: 1
ORAC 2#
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Re: Latest purchase?

Post by Irinikus » Sun Jun 17, 2018 2:35 pm

I see you're up and running, awesome!!!

That's quite a machine you have over there!!!

EDIT:

How are you finding your Origin2000 compared to your Tezros in terms of processing performance or nippiness, as I realise you can't compare them from a graphics hardware point of view?
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Re: Latest purchase?

Post by jan-jaap » Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:31 am

Good to see it's working.

Two quickies:
1. Memory testing takes several minutes. Once you're confident the hardware is OK, you can disable the full memory test by flipping one of the dip switches behind the MSC panel (where the key switch is). I can look up which one. That's how I run my Onyx2 (which has the full 4GB per nodeboard). Oh, what *really* takes forever to POST is nodes with RAM but no (enabled) CPUs. This can happen if you replace the PIMM on a node with a faster one. Then the other nodes have to run the memory test over the NUMA link and it takes half an hour or so. It's usually faster to just pull all but one bank of memory from the board until the CPUs work again.

2. Normally you should spread the memory over the nodes so all nodes have similar amounts of local memory. All CPUs can access all memory but non-local memory is slower (that's the NU in NUMA). So unless you have an extremely specific workload and pin processes to CPUs this is not a good idea.

There's a message about PROM rev mismatches and barrier sync warnings which usually means one of the IO6 or CPU PROMs is a different rev. Most common case is someone swapped out a part, which would also explain the RAM-less node. 'flash' will fix the PROM rev mismatch.

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Re: Latest purchase?

Post by uunix » Mon Jun 18, 2018 4:54 am

Thanks for this info Jan-Jaap.
jan-jaap wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:31 am
Good to see it's working.
Well, getting there, I still have half the 10GB Memory to bring back to life and a nodeboard. It has nothing interesting installed, apart from MIPPSPro 7.4.3, the skins look OK, but also a bit flaky. Still, very interesting to play with.
jan-jaap wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:31 am
Two quickies:
1. Memory testing takes several minutes. Once you're confident the hardware is OK, you can disable the full memory test by flipping one of the dip switches behind the MSC panel (where the key switch is). I can look up which one. That's how I run my Onyx2 (which has the full 4GB per nodeboard). Oh, what *really* takes forever to POST is nodes with RAM but no (enabled) CPUs. This can happen if you replace the PIMM on a node with a faster one. Then the other nodes have to run the memory test over the NUMA link and it takes half an hour or so. It's usually faster to just pull all but one bank of memory from the board until the CPUs work again.
Think therefore I may remove all memory from the none-working node and get as much working in the other ones to start with then.
jan-jaap wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:31 am
2. Normally you should spread the memory over the nodes so all nodes have similar amounts of local memory. All CPUs can access all memory but non-local memory is slower (that's the NU in NUMA). So unless you have an extremely specific workload and pin processes to CPUs this is not a good idea.
Yes, spreading is what I would have thought.
jan-jaap wrote:
Mon Jun 18, 2018 3:31 am
There's a message about PROM rev mismatches and barrier sync warnings which usually means one of the IO6 or CPU PROMs is a different rev. Most common case is someone swapped out a part, which would also explain the RAM-less node. 'flash' will fix the PROM rev mismatch.
I carried out a flash this morning and the messages have gone. First pass updated one of the boards, and subsequent passes updated none, so they all match.
I wonder does anyone have the techpub on these machines, some things I would like to get straight is the fitting of memory. I have a mixture of Green and Red simms, I have taken to installing first the red, and then populating the remaing with green (I have more green than red), and unsure if this is correct.

Cheers for your help, maybe I should create a new thread on this.
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Re: Latest purchase?

Post by jan-jaap » Mon Jun 18, 2018 9:36 am

"red" memory is 512MB per kit (of 2 DIMMs)
"silver" memory is 256MB per kit (of 2 DIMMs)
everything else is ... not too interesting.

There's a monster PDF describing the O2K/Onyx2 series which probably has this info: https://archive.org/details/Origin2k_Hardware_Guide
NB: if that's the "quick ref booklet" I'd like to know what the in-depth booklet looks like ;)

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